Re: [BCAB] wma lossless David Reynolds 20 Sep 2011 14:00 BST

Joe,

I believe it is 192KBPS.

David.

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Subject: Re: [BCAB] wma lossless

Hello Ted,

I don't know the bit rate that RD downloads are encoded, but I
completely agree with you that re-encoding from a lower bit rate to a
higher has no auditory beneficial effects.

equally I'd like to know what bit rate the listen again player
streams at? because if it were markedly better than 128 listening
experience, I'd record stuff in real time.

Best regards,

Joe

At 12:57 19/09/2011, you wrote:
>Thanks Joe, I'll take a look at Radio Downloader.
>
>I don't quite see, however, how raising the bitrate of audio that
>has been put out at a lower rate can improve the quality.
>
>I do agree, of course, that the higher the bitrate the better the
>sound quality, but from what you say, your earsight must be better than
mine!
>
>Ted
>
>On 17/09/11 14:41, Joe Paton wrote:
>>Hello Ted,
>>
>>Using radio downloader, bbc radio programmes are mp3 format. I think
>>that the listen again from there site may be another format, but the
>>downloader allows for re-encoding to a preferred bit-rate.
>>
>>This is one of the easiest and qwuickest method of retrieving programmes
>>to my knowledge, if you don't have it, visit www.whitestick.co.uk, go to
>>the downloads page, and download the utility from there. There is also a
>>link to the downloader web site, where you can find more details of the
>>application.
>>
>>I reckon my ears aint what they used to be, but I can still hear
>>artifacts in low bit rate music, and lower bit rate voice.
>>
>>For instance, some of the audio quality I have heard on talking books
>>from the library is poor to my hearing, grainey in the middle
>>frequencies to start with. Anyway mustn't clutter the list with my out
>>of context ramblinggs.
>>
>>Take care and listen well.
>>
>>Joe
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>I'm probably as
>>
>>At 15:16 16/09/2011, you wrote:
>>>Hello Joe,
>>>
>>>No, at my very advanced age, my hearing is pretty well shot, so I'm
>>>not able to detect the subtle differences you describe.
>>>
>>>The reason behind my question is I want to save Radio 3 podcasts,
>>>which are said to be wma. There are different versions of wma, I
>>>presume some are lossles, and others not. Or am I wrong? I've done
>>>some googling, but still not clear, so hoping someone can enlighten me.
>>>
>>>Cheers, Ted
>>>
>>>On 15/09/11 22:16, Joe Paton wrote:
>>>>Hello Ted,
>>>>
>>>>Here's a silly question,
>>>>
>>>>How does it sound to you?
>>>>
>>>>I'm fairly sure that I can hear artifacts particularly on long music
>>>>notes for example, a piano with re-verb or one that is recorded in an
>>>>auditorium where the sound naturally decays using mp3 where the bit
>>>>depth is say 128 KBPS over higher bit rates 192 or greater.
>>>>
>>>>It seems that you are a purist, and this is so subjective. so my
>>>>thoughts may be of no use to you.
>>>>
>>>>You probably need to view some data sheets on this subject.
>>>>
>>>>This can be a huge problem. After all, an awful lot of audio I hear on
>>>>Digital, is quite frankly pure crap.
>>>>
>>>>I haven't even bought an album on cd where I have been impressed with
>>>>the quality or even satisfied. Maybe a keith jarrett cd, solo piano, was
>>>>a beautiful recording but that's rare in my limited experience. I dug
>>>>out some vinyl the other day, a couple of albums on ECM and GRP;
>>>>absolutely beautiful on my turntable.
>>>>
>>>>No more rambling, good luck. I'd be interested in what you discover.
>>>>
>>>>Kind regards,
>>>>
>>>>Joe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>At 20:46 15/09/2011, you wrote:
>>>>>How do,
>>>>>
>>>>>Can anyone tell me if all .wma files are lossless, as with flac or
>>>>>monkey's audio for instance? The programme I mostly use for
>>>>>compressing audio offers a choice of wma 9.2, or wma 10 professional.
>>>>>]Are both of these lossless, or do I need a different encoder
>>>>>altogether?
>>>>>
>>>>>Help and guidance appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>>Ted
>>>>>
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