[BCAB] PDF Gerard Sadlier 12 Nov 2012 21:03 GMT

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>    1. Re: ultra cain (Jackie Cairns)
>    2. Re: Apple and Kindle Keyboard questions (Jackie Cairns)
>    3. Project Management Professional Certification (Kiran Kaja)
>    4. Re: Apple and Kindle Keyboard questions (wendy tomes)
>    5. Re: Project Management Professional Certification
>       (Adrian Higginbotham)
>    6. Re: Project Management Professional Certification (Kiran Kaja)
>    7. GUIDANCE ON THE USE OF PDF (Richard Godfrey-McKay)
>    8. Re: Project Management Professional Certification
>       (Alexandra Bowmer)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 13:28:15 -0000
> From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@btinternet.com>
> To: "'BCAB Discussion List'" <bcab@lists.bcab.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] ultra cain
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> Hi Alex
>
> I think what made it feel heavy was the clunking great bit at the top with
> all the electronics in it, and then the rather flimsy cane below.  It
> didn't
> feel right to me, not the sort of thing you could rest beside you properly
> without it falling.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Jackie Cairns
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces@lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
> Sent: 10 November 2012 09:17
> To: 'BCAB Discussion List'
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] ultra cain
>
> Jackie, I never had a demo of the older version, but I didn't think it was
> that heavy, possibly a bit bulky, but not that heavy.
> Cheers
> Alex
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces@lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Jackie
> Cairns
> Sent: 10 November 2012 08:56
> To: 'BCAB Discussion List'
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] ultra cain
>
> Hi Alan
>
> As you've had a handle on it, so to speak, could you give an idea of its
> weight in comparison to the older version?  I found it rather heavy and
> bulky when folded.   I would love to try one out, just to see how it
> compares.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Jackie Cairns
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces@lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of ALAN THORPE
> Sent: 09 November 2012 19:08
> To: BCAB Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] ultra cain
>
> hello
> it is the same but it has had quite a bit of work done to it making the
> electronics better.
>
> I can say this as I was involved with the testing of the new model.
>
> I was even on breakfast TV on film with it earlier this year.
> in fact it was on the same day as that farm got raided so our item was only
> one once as the farm story took over and we were removed.
>
> MANY THANKS
> ALAN THORPE
> EMAIL info@eyecan.org.uk
> TEL 0114 220 7007
> MOB 07961 406739
> www.eyecan.org.uk
> for aids  and advice for visually impaired people along with perkins
> repairs
> and servicing.
> now an accredited trainer for Dolphin Guide
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Vince Thacker" <vince@gainleics.fsnet.co.uk>
> To: "BCAB Discussion List" <bcab@lists.bcab.org.uk>
> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 6:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] ultra cain
>
>
> I'm wodnering if this is the same Ultracane that was around maybe 6 or 7
> years ago, because i understand that the original makers had gone out of
> business.
>
> I did have a chance to try one, and got the hang of it pretty quickly, with
> both sounds and vibrations giving clues about the environment. At least it
> would supposedly detect overhanging thorns and the like, so would
> definitely
> be an asset for some people. For the price, though, I decided I didn't need
> one that desperately, as no doubt I'd have to buy it myself. I'm very glad
> in any case that I first became much more proficient at using the regular
> long cane.
>
> Vince.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Geoff Madge IS Development Officer Technology IS Strategy"
> <Geoff.Madge@essex.gov.uk>
> To: "BCAB Discussion List" <bcab@lists.bcab.org.uk>
> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 12:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] ultra cain
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I have been using an UltraCane for about nine months now and find it very
> helpful indeed.  It has all the advantages of having a normal long cane but
> gives either short range or longer range warning of any obstacles either in
> front or above.  I do twist the handle to find out what is either side of
> me
> as well which is very effective.  I can even track where people are when I
> a
> walking along the pavement .
>
> It has reduced the number actual hits I make with the cane and my own
> impacts when bumping into things.  It is not a total solution to getting
> about but has made a big improvement for me.  I recently forgot to replace
> the AA batteries so was left just with a long cane which showed me how much
> I am now using the sonar to get about.  If you are thinking of trying one
> please bear in mind that it takes several weeks for using it to become
> second nature which is when the benefit really begins to show.
>
> I managed to get Access To Work funding for my UltraCane with the support
> of
> my employer.  If you are in employment then this is definitely worth a try.
>
>
> Regards,
>
>  Geoff Madge
> IS Development Officer
> Information Services, Transformation Directorate Essex County Council
> Telephone: 01245 431332 | Ext: 21332 | Email: geoff.madge@essex.gov.uk |
> www.essex.gov.uk
>
> EssexWorks
>
> For a better quality of life
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces@lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of
> Nick.Adamson@generaldynamics.uk.com
> Sent: 09 November 2012 11:50
> To: bcab@lists.bcab.org.uk
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] ultra cain
>
> Hi John.
>
> Thanks for the info.
> I've read up about the glasses before but I'm not sure about them.
> According
> to my wife, they look a little bit strange and a bit conspicuous.
>
> Thanks.
> Nick.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces@lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of john
> Sent: Friday, 09 November 2012 11:18
> To: bcab@lists.bcab.org.uk
> Subject: [BCAB] ultra cain
>
> Hi Nick,
>
> I tried one of these out last year at sv and thought it quite good but very
> costly. The rnib do a similar product but in the form of glasses. Both work
> on ultra sound but the ultra cain has a much greater distence up to 4m,
> weather this is of benefit is debatible on things like how much advance
> notice one would like.
>
> The basic idea is that you get vibration indication of when an object is in
> range of the ultra sound path. So for the ultra cain, this covers from just
> above your head to the floor and about a metre wide with a range of either
> 2m or 4m. The glasses from the rnib which are priced at ?80 I believe, only
> cover the top half arond head height to chest or waste I think and only
> does
> quite close range, not sure exactaly. The ultra cain has two vibrating
> bumps
> on the cain one for the top sencer and the other for the bottom sencer,
> giving you an idea of where the object is within your forward path. By
> twisting the cain left or right, it was very easy to get an idea of what
> was
> around either side and with a little practice I think would be quite
> helpful, especially in new or changing seroundings. The glasses from the
> rnib are to be used with either a regular cain or guide dog. They are not
> sufficient to use on their own. I haven't yet tried out the glasses but
> hope
> to do so soon.
>
> I hope this very quick review gives a little help into these products.
>
> best, John
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> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 13:29:22 -0000
> From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@btinternet.com>
> To: "'BCAB Discussion List'" <bcab@lists.bcab.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Apple and Kindle Keyboard questions
> Message-ID: <6C6B7DF897E54699AA64BE4A5A031AEA@JackiePC>
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> I think people have done that without success.  Of course I'll try, but my
> contribution won't be any better than anyone elses.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Jackie Cairns
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces@lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Neela
> Sent: 10 November 2012 09:24
> To: BCAB Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Apple and Kindle Keyboard questions
>
> Why not write to Amazon Jackie.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@btinternet.com>
> To: "'BCAB Discussion List'" <bcab@lists.bcab.org.uk>
> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 12:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Apple and Kindle Keyboard questions
>
>
>> Then I have the Kindle Keyboard sussed, but was only wondering if there
>> were
>> any commands that might be useful I had missed.  It is such a pity Amazon
>> have been so half-hearted about Kindle accessibility.
>>
>> Many thanks.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Jackie Cairns
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces@lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Ian
>> Macrae
>> Sent: 09 November 2012 11:59
>> To: BCAB Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Apple and Kindle Keyboard questions
>>
>> the only way to get the battery status is to wait until it is low enough
>> for
>> the low battery warning to show itself.  there is a visual indicator at
>> the
>> top right of the reading screen, but this is not rendered by the TTS. As
>> the
>> TTS's functionality is relatively limited, there aren't that many
>> commands
>> you need to know. Start and stop reading with the spacebar.  Turn TTS on
>> and
>> off via the page preferences button (right of spacebar).  while speech is
>> running, use this same button to select either male or female voice and
>> speed from three options.  think that's it.
>>
>> Think continuous reading on the iPhone is 3 fingered downward swipe.
>>
>> Ian Macrae
>> Editor
>> Disability Now
>> 6 Market Road
>> London
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>> ++44 20 7619 7760 ext 7760
>> ++44 7824 900855
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>> Follow us: @disabilitynow
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9 Nov 2012, at 11:49, Jackie Cairns wrote:
>>
>> Firstly, in relation to reading within the iBooks app on an Apple device,
>> could someone please tell me the gesture for continuous read?  Is there a
>> way of listening to a book without having to turn the page?
>>
>> Secondly, regarding the Kindle Keyboard, how do you ascertain the battery
>> status please?  And is there a list of commands using text-to-speech?
>>
>> Many thanks.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Jackie Cairns
>>
>>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:10:37 -0000
> From: "Kiran Kaja" <kirankaja12@gmail.com>
> To: "BCAB Discussion List" <bcab@lists.bcab.org.uk>
> Subject: [BCAB] Project Management Professional Certification
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> Hi All,
>
>
>
> As part of career development in my current job role, it was suggested that
> I should get certified as a Project Management Professional (PMP
> Certification) offered by the Project Management Institute (www.pmi.org). I
> am looking to find a training provider authorised by PMI. Before I start
> contacting and asking if they have the study materials in accessible
> formats
> and so on, I thought I will check with the list to see if anyone has
> attempted this already. Thanks in advance for any information you are able
> to share.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Kiran
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:40:04 +0000 (GMT)
> From: wendy tomes <ducksv005@yahoo.co.uk>
> To: BCAB Discussion List <bcab@lists.bcab.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Apple and Kindle Keyboard questions
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> Hi?Jackie
> The Kindle Fire Is Not Accessible
> There is Links in This blog
> http://bdmtech.blogspot.co.uk/2011/10/is-kindle-fire-accessible.html
>
> KindleAndroidaccessibletext-to-speechbraille display support?(NFB.org)
>
> Hope this helps.
> Wendy  Keith
> --- On Mon, 12/11/12, Jackie Cairns <jackie.cairnsplace@btinternet.com>
> wrote:
>
> From: Jackie Cairns <jackie.cairnsplace@btinternet.com>
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Apple and Kindle Keyboard questions
> To: "'BCAB Discussion List'" <bcab@lists.bcab.org.uk>
> Date: Monday, 12 November, 2012, 13:29
>
> I think people have done that without success.? Of course I'll try, but my
> contribution won't be any better than anyone elses.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Jackie Cairns
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces@lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Neela
> Sent: 10 November 2012 09:24
> To: BCAB Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Apple and Kindle Keyboard questions
>
> Why not write to Amazon Jackie.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@btinternet.com>
> To: "'BCAB Discussion List'" <bcab@lists.bcab.org.uk>
> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 12:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Apple and Kindle Keyboard questions
>
>
>> Then I have the Kindle Keyboard sussed, but was only wondering if there
>> were
>> any commands that might be useful I had missed.? It is such a pity Amazon
>> have been so half-hearted about Kindle accessibility.
>>
>> Many thanks.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Jackie Cairns
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces@lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Ian
>> Macrae
>> Sent: 09 November 2012 11:59
>> To: BCAB Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Apple and Kindle Keyboard questions
>>
>> the only way to get the battery status is to wait until it is low enough
>> for
>> the low battery warning to show itself.? there is a visual indicator at
>> the
>> top right of the reading screen, but this is not rendered by the TTS. As
>> the
>> TTS's functionality is relatively limited, there aren't that many
>> commands
>> you need to know. Start and stop reading with the spacebar.? Turn TTS on
>> and
>> off via the page preferences button (right of spacebar).? while speech is
>> running, use this same button to select either male or female voice and
>> speed from three options.? think that's it.
>>
>> Think continuous reading on the iPhone is 3 fingered downward swipe.
>>
>> Ian Macrae
>> Editor
>> Disability Now
>> 6 Market Road
>> London
>> N7 9PW
>> ++44 20 7619 7760 ext 7760
>> ++44 7824 900855
>> www.disabilitynow.org.uk<http://www.disabilitynow.org.uk>
>> Follow us: @disabilitynow
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9 Nov 2012, at 11:49, Jackie Cairns wrote:
>>
>> Firstly, in relation to reading within the iBooks app on an Apple device,
>> could someone please tell me the gesture for continuous read?? Is there a
>> way of listening to a book without having to turn the page?
>>
>> Secondly, regarding the Kindle Keyboard, how do you ascertain the battery
>> status please?? And is there a list of commands using text-to-speech?
>>
>> Many thanks.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Jackie Cairns
>>
>>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 18:57:59 -0000
> From: "Adrian Higginbotham" <Adrian@dogfish.plus.com>
> To: "'BCAB Discussion List'" <bcab@lists.bcab.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Project Management Professional Certification
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> Hi Kiran:
> I've done Prince 2 rather than PMP but they aren't worlds apart. I did my
> training with FGI http://www.fgiltd.co.uk/
> and they were very flexible particularly in making sure I had appropriate
> adjustments to exams.  I've had a quick look and they do offer PMP so let
> me
> know if you'd like me to dig out my contact there.
>
> Access to training materials can be tricky, one of the reasons that I
> didn't
> go on to do prince 2 MSP was because the training manual, which is
> published
> by government stationary office couldn't be made available in an accesible
> format.  I started down the route of equalitiy legislation over the matter
> but events overtook me adn it stopped being an immediate issue when I
> changed jobs.  FGI were very much involved in that issue and did all that
> they could to help so again should be well placed to advise as to whether
> access to training materials will be possible for PMP.
>
> Adrian Higginbotham
> E: Adrian@dogfish.plus.com
> T: @AHiggi
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces@lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Kiran Kaja
> Sent: 12 November 2012 17:11
> To: BCAB Discussion List
> Subject: [BCAB] Project Management Professional Certification
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> As part of career development in my current job role, it was suggested that
> I should get certified as a Project Management Professional (PMP
> Certification) offered by the Project Management Institute (www.pmi.org). I
> am looking to find a training provider authorised by PMI. Before I start
> contacting and asking if they have the study materials in accessible
> formats
> and so on, I thought I will check with the list to see if anyone has
> attempted this already. Thanks in advance for any information you are able
> to share.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Kiran
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 19:49:06 -0000
> From: "Kiran Kaja" <kirankaja12@gmail.com>
> To: "'BCAB Discussion List'" <bcab@lists.bcab.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Project Management Professional Certification
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>
> Hi Adrian,
>
> Thank you.
>
> I just looked at FGI website. I don't see them offering PMP. Where did you
> find it?
>
> Regards,
> Kiran
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces@lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Adrian
> Higginbotham
> Sent: 12 November 2012 18:58
> To: 'BCAB Discussion List'
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Project Management Professional Certification
>
> Hi Kiran:
> I've done Prince 2 rather than PMP but they aren't worlds apart. I did my
> training with FGI http://www.fgiltd.co.uk/ and they were very flexible
> particularly in making sure I had appropriate adjustments to exams.  I've
> had a quick look and they do offer PMP so let me know if you'd like me to
> dig out my contact there.
>
> Access to training materials can be tricky, one of the reasons that I
> didn't
> go on to do prince 2 MSP was because the training manual, which is
> published
> by government stationary office couldn't be made available in an accesible
> format.  I started down the route of equalitiy legislation over the matter
> but events overtook me adn it stopped being an immediate issue when I
> changed jobs.  FGI were very much involved in that issue and did all that
> they could to help so again should be well placed to advise as to whether
> access to training materials will be possible for PMP.
>
> Adrian Higginbotham
> E: Adrian@dogfish.plus.com
> T: @AHiggi
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces@lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Kiran Kaja
> Sent: 12 November 2012 17:11
> To: BCAB Discussion List
> Subject: [BCAB] Project Management Professional Certification
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> As part of career development in my current job role, it was suggested that
> I should get certified as a Project Management Professional (PMP
> Certification) offered by the Project Management Institute (www.pmi.org). I
> am looking to find a training provider authorised by PMI. Before I start
> contacting and asking if they have the study materials in accessible
> formats
> and so on, I thought I will check with the list to see if anyone has
> attempted this already. Thanks in advance for any information you are able
> to share.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Kiran
>
> --
> To find out more about BCAB and the benefits that membership can bring,
> please visit our website:
> http://www.bcab.org.uk/
>
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> website:
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 19:59:00 -0000
> From: "Richard Godfrey-McKay" <lists.godfrey-mckay@virginmedia.com>
> To: "'BCAB Discussion List'" <bcab@lists.bcab.org.uk>
> Subject: [BCAB] GUIDANCE ON THE USE OF PDF
> Message-ID: <C58659DFDEBD42A7A165446CA8AA37B7@RichardPC>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Hi, I'm wondering what is the best place to find some authoritative
> guidance
> or personal opinions on the use of PDf files either on or off the web.
>
> I seem to remember that RNIB used to have some guidance on its site, but I
> couldn't find it immediately tonight.
>
> While some PDf files seem fairly usable, others aren't, and I should like
> to
> understand the current position better.  Another point is that it would be
> helpful to have some views on whether PDF forms are commonly made to an
> acceptable accessibility standard.  I've seen some simple forms which look
> OK, but I often find that more complicated material hasn't been set up in a
> way that I can use easily.
>
> I should really welcome views on this one please.
>
>
> Richard
>
> Richard Godfrey-McKay
>
> Telephone: 01738-445 880
>
> Mobile: 07791 452 593
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 20:10:23 -0000
> From: "Alexandra Bowmer" <alexandra.bowmer@ntlworld.com>
> To: "'BCAB Discussion List'" <bcab@lists.bcab.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Project Management Professional Certification
> Message-ID: <46C73A7EA1234D06BCFF82BDDED33849@pc>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hi,
> I have used Raj Khanna Associates for my Prince2 certification, and they
> really do go the extra mile to ensure that you can access everything.
> They're helpful and will do all they can to assist.  You can check out
> their
> details at www.rkassociatesltd.co.uk
>
> Kind regards, and good luck.
> Alexandra.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces@lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Kiran Kaja
> Sent: 12 November 2012 19:49
> To: 'BCAB Discussion List'
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Project Management Professional Certification
>
>
> Hi Adrian,
>
> Thank you.
>
> I just looked at FGI website. I don't see them offering PMP. Where did you
> find it?
>
> Regards,
> Kiran
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces@lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Adrian
> Higginbotham
> Sent: 12 November 2012 18:58
> To: 'BCAB Discussion List'
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Project Management Professional Certification
>
> Hi Kiran:
> I've done Prince 2 rather than PMP but they aren't worlds apart. I did my
> training with FGI http://www.fgiltd.co.uk/ and they were very flexible
> particularly in making sure I had appropriate adjustments to exams.  I've
> had a quick look and they do offer PMP so let me know if you'd like me to
> dig out my contact there.
>
> Access to training materials can be tricky, one of the reasons that I
> didn't
> go on to do prince 2 MSP was because the training manual, which is
> published
> by government stationary office couldn't be made available in an accesible
> format.  I started down the route of equalitiy legislation over the matter
> but events overtook me adn it stopped being an immediate issue when I
> changed jobs.  FGI were very much involved in that issue and did all that
> they could to help so again should be well placed to advise as to whether
> access to training materials will be possible for PMP.
>
> Adrian Higginbotham
> E: Adrian@dogfish.plus.com
> T: @AHiggi
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces@lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Kiran Kaja
> Sent: 12 November 2012 17:11
> To: BCAB Discussion List
> Subject: [BCAB] Project Management Professional Certification
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> As part of career development in my current job role, it was suggested that
> I should get certified as a Project Management Professional (PMP
> Certification) offered by the Project Management Institute (www.pmi.org). I
> am looking to find a training provider authorised by PMI. Before I start
> contacting and asking if they have the study materials in accessible
> formats
> and so on, I thought I will check with the list to see if anyone has
> attempted this already. Thanks in advance for any information you are able
> to share.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Kiran
>
> --
> To find out more about BCAB and the benefits that membership can bring,
> please visit our website: http://www.bcab.org.uk/
>
> To manage your subscription to the BCAB mailing list, please visit our
> website:
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>
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> moderator@bcab.org.uk.
>
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I can be of no help regarding guidance on when pdf should be used.

I generally find it can be made to work.

PDF forms are a special case, since so much depends on who has made
the form and how it has been laid out. Having used some CRO forms
(companies Office over here), I can say that even complex forms can be
made to work.

Unfortunately adobe reader doesn't let you save the completed form.

Ger