[BCAB] Pen Friend Labeller Query Gerard Sadlier (13 Nov 2012 06:19 GMT)
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Re: [BCAB] Pen Friend Labeller Query
Richard Godfrey-McKay
(13 Nov 2012 07:02 GMT)
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Re: [BCAB] Pen Friend Labeller Query
Ian Macrae
(13 Nov 2012 08:55 GMT)
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Re: [BCAB] Pen Friend Labeller Query
Mel Griffiths
(13 Nov 2012 09:34 GMT)
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Re: [BCAB] Pen Friend Labeller Query
Sue & Ian
(13 Nov 2012 09:11 GMT)
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[BCAB] Pen Friend Labeller Query Gerard Sadlier 13 Nov 2012 06:19 GMT
HI all, Quick query about this. are the labels water-proof? Could you put them through a wash, attached to clothes say? Thanks Ger On 11/10/12, bcab-request@lists.bcab.org.uk <bcab-request@lists.bcab.org.uk> wrote: > Send Bcab mailing list submissions to > bcab@lists.bcab.org.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.bcab.org.uk/listinfo/bcab > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > bcab-request@lists.bcab.org.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > bcab-owner@lists.bcab.org.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Bcab digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: ultra cain (Alex Stone) > 2. Re: Apple and Kindle Keyboard questions (Neela) > 3. Re: ultra caii (Alan) > 4. ACB Radio Tuner Version 7.2 released. (Colin Howard) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 09:16:45 -0000 > From: "Alex Stone" <alexstone871@btinternet.com> > To: "'BCAB Discussion List'" <bcab@lists.bcab.org.uk> > Subject: Re: [BCAB] ultra cain > Message-ID: <015d01cdbf24$1acaf950$5060ebf0$@btinternet.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Jackie, I never had a demo of the older version, but I didn't think it was > that heavy, possibly a bit bulky, but not that heavy. > Cheers > Alex > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces@lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Jackie > Cairns > Sent: 10 November 2012 08:56 > To: 'BCAB Discussion List' > Subject: Re: [BCAB] ultra cain > > Hi Alan > > As you've had a handle on it, so to speak, could you give an idea of its > weight in comparison to the older version? I found it rather heavy and > bulky when folded. I would love to try one out, just to see how it > compares. > > > Kind Regards, > > Jackie Cairns > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces@lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of ALAN THORPE > Sent: 09 November 2012 19:08 > To: BCAB Discussion List > Subject: Re: [BCAB] ultra cain > > hello > it is the same but it has had quite a bit of work done to it making the > electronics better. > > I can say this as I was involved with the testing of the new model. > > I was even on breakfast TV on film with it earlier this year. > in fact it was on the same day as that farm got raided so our item was only > one once as the farm story took over and we were removed. > > MANY THANKS > ALAN THORPE > EMAIL info@eyecan.org.uk > TEL 0114 220 7007 > MOB 07961 406739 > www.eyecan.org.uk > for aids and advice for visually impaired people along with perkins > repairs > and servicing. > now an accredited trainer for Dolphin Guide > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Vince Thacker" <vince@gainleics.fsnet.co.uk> > To: "BCAB Discussion List" <bcab@lists.bcab.org.uk> > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 6:59 PM > Subject: Re: [BCAB] ultra cain > > > I'm wodnering if this is the same Ultracane that was around maybe 6 or 7 > years ago, because i understand that the original makers had gone out of > business. > > I did have a chance to try one, and got the hang of it pretty quickly, with > both sounds and vibrations giving clues about the environment. At least it > would supposedly detect overhanging thorns and the like, so would > definitely > be an asset for some people. For the price, though, I decided I didn't need > one that desperately, as no doubt I'd have to buy it myself. I'm very glad > in any case that I first became much more proficient at using the regular > long cane. > > Vince. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Geoff Madge IS Development Officer Technology IS Strategy" > <Geoff.Madge@essex.gov.uk> > To: "BCAB Discussion List" <bcab@lists.bcab.org.uk> > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 12:15 PM > Subject: Re: [BCAB] ultra cain > > > Hello, > > I have been using an UltraCane for about nine months now and find it very > helpful indeed. It has all the advantages of having a normal long cane but > gives either short range or longer range warning of any obstacles either in > front or above. I do twist the handle to find out what is either side of > me > as well which is very effective. I can even track where people are when I > a > walking along the pavement . > > It has reduced the number actual hits I make with the cane and my own > impacts when bumping into things. It is not a total solution to getting > about but has made a big improvement for me. I recently forgot to replace > the AA batteries so was left just with a long cane which showed me how much > I am now using the sonar to get about. If you are thinking of trying one > please bear in mind that it takes several weeks for using it to become > second nature which is when the benefit really begins to show. > > I managed to get Access To Work funding for my UltraCane with the support > of > my employer. If you are in employment then this is definitely worth a try. > > > Regards, > > Geoff Madge > IS Development Officer > Information Services, Transformation Directorate > Essex County Council > Telephone: 01245 431332 | Ext: 21332 | Email: geoff.madge@essex.gov.uk | > www.essex.gov.uk > > EssexWorks > > For a better quality of life > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces@lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of > Nick.Adamson@generaldynamics.uk.com > Sent: 09 November 2012 11:50 > To: bcab@lists.bcab.org.uk > Subject: Re: [BCAB] ultra cain > > Hi John. > > Thanks for the info. > I've read up about the glasses before but I'm not sure about them. > According > to my wife, they look a little bit strange and a bit conspicuous. > > Thanks. > Nick. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces@lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of john > Sent: Friday, 09 November 2012 11:18 > To: bcab@lists.bcab.org.uk > Subject: [BCAB] ultra cain > > Hi Nick, > > I tried one of these out last year at sv and thought it quite good but very > costly. The rnib do a similar product but in the form of glasses. Both work > on ultra sound but the ultra cain has a much greater distence up to 4m, > weather this is of benefit is debatible on things like how much advance > notice one would like. > > The basic idea is that you get vibration indication of when an object is in > range of the ultra sound path. So for the ultra cain, this covers from just > above your head to the floor and about a metre wide with a range of either > 2m or 4m. The glasses from the rnib which are priced at ?80 I believe, only > cover the top half arond head height to chest or waste I think and only > does > quite close range, not sure exactaly. The ultra cain has two vibrating > bumps > on the cain one for the top sencer and the other for the bottom sencer, > giving you an idea of where the object is within your forward path. By > twisting the cain left or right, it was very easy to get an idea of what > was > around either side and with a little practice I think would be quite > helpful, especially in new or changing seroundings. The glasses from the > rnib are to be used with either a regular cain or guide dog. They are not > sufficient to use on their own. I haven't yet tried out the glasses but > hope > to do so soon. > > I hope this very quick review gives a little help into these products. > > best, John > -- > To find out more about BCAB and the benefits that membership can bring, > please visit our website: > http://www.bcab.org.uk/ > > To manage your subscription to the BCAB mailing list, please visit our > website: > http://www.bcab.org.uk/bcab-discussion-list/ > > To discuss matters relating to the mailing list, please email > moderator@bcab.org.uk. > > > This email and any files attached are intended for the addressee and may > contain information of a confidential nature. 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It is such a pity Amazon >> have been so half-hearted about Kindle accessibility. >> >> Many thanks. >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> Jackie Cairns >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces@lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Ian >> Macrae >> Sent: 09 November 2012 11:59 >> To: BCAB Discussion List >> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Apple and Kindle Keyboard questions >> >> the only way to get the battery status is to wait until it is low enough >> for >> the low battery warning to show itself. there is a visual indicator at >> the >> top right of the reading screen, but this is not rendered by the TTS. As >> the >> TTS's functionality is relatively limited, there aren't that many >> commands >> you need to know. Start and stop reading with the spacebar. Turn TTS on >> and >> off via the page preferences button (right of spacebar). while speech is >> running, use this same button to select either male or female voice and >> speed from three options. think that's it. >> >> Think continuous reading on the iPhone is 3 fingered downward swipe. >> >> Ian Macrae >> Editor >> Disability Now >> 6 Market Road >> London >> N7 9PW >> ++44 20 7619 7760 ext 7760 >> ++44 7824 900855 >> www.disabilitynow.org.uk<http://www.disabilitynow.org.uk> >> Follow us: @disabilitynow >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 9 Nov 2012, at 11:49, Jackie Cairns wrote: >> >> Firstly, in relation to reading within the iBooks app on an Apple device, >> could someone please tell me the gesture for continuous read? Is there a >> way of listening to a book without having to turn the page? >> >> Secondly, regarding the Kindle Keyboard, how do you ascertain the battery >> status please? And is there a list of commands using text-to-speech? >> >> Many thanks. >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> Jackie Cairns >> >> >> -- >> To find out more about BCAB and the benefits that membership can bring, >> please visit our website: >> http://www.bcab.org.uk/ >> >> To manage your subscription to the BCAB mailing list, please visit our >> website: >> http://www.bcab.org.uk/bcab-discussion-list/ >> >> To discuss matters relating to the mailing list, please email >> moderator@bcab.org.uk. >> >> -- >> To find out more about BCAB and the benefits that membership can bring, >> please visit our website: >> http://www.bcab.org.uk/ >> >> To manage your subscription to the BCAB mailing list, please visit our >> website: >> http://www.bcab.org.uk/bcab-discussion-list/ >> >> To discuss matters relating to the mailing list, please email >> moderator@bcab.org.uk. >> >> >> -- >> To find out more about BCAB and the benefits that membership can bring, >> please visit our website: >> http://www.bcab.org.uk/ >> >> To manage your subscription to the BCAB mailing list, please visit our >> website: >> http://www.bcab.org.uk/bcab-discussion-list/ >> >> To discuss matters relating to the mailing list, please email >> moderator@bcab.org.uk. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 09:27:05 +0000 > From: "Alan" <Info@eyecan.org.uk> > To: BCAB Discussion List <bcab@lists.bcab.org.uk> > Subject: Re: [BCAB] ultra caii > Message-ID: <G9fcBlLRsJMX.MTZPFQYZ@Elmo.visn.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > Call 07961 406 739 > > -original message- > Subject: Re: [BCAB] ultra cain > From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@btinternet.com> > Date: 10/11/2012 8:56 am > > Hi Alan > > As you've had a handle on it, so to speak, could you give an idea of its > weight in comparison to the older version? I found it rather heavy and > bulky when folded. I would love to try one out, just to see how it > compares. > > > Kind Regards, > > Jackie Cairns > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces@lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of ALAN THORPE > Sent: 09 November 2012 19:08 > To: BCAB Discussion List > Subject: Re: [BCAB] ultra cain > > hello > it is the same but it has had quite a bit of work done to it making the > electronics better. > > I can say this as I was involved with the testing of the new model. > > I was even on breakfast TV on film with it earlier this year. > in fact it was on the same day as that farm got raided so our item was only > one once as the farm story took over and we were removed. > > MANY THANKS > ALAN THORPE > EMAIL info@eyecan.org.uk > TEL 0114 220 7007 > MOB 07961 406739 > www.eyecan.org.uk > for aids and advice for visually impaired people along with perkins > repairs > and servicing. > now an accredited trainer for Dolphin Guide > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Vince Thacker" <vince@gainleics.fsnet.co.uk> > To: "BCAB Discussion List" <bcab@lists.bcab.org.uk> > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 6:59 PM > Subject: Re: [BCAB] ultra cain > > > I'm wodnering if this is the same Ultracane that was around maybe 6 or 7 > years ago, because i understand that the original makers had gone out of > business. > > I did have a chance to try one, and got the hang of it pretty quickly, with > both sounds and vibrations giving clues about the environment. At least it > would supposedly detect overhanging thorns and the like, so would > definitely > be an asset for some people. For the price, though, I decided I didn't need > one that desperately, as no doubt I'd have to buy it myself. I'm very glad > in any case that I first became much more proficient at using the regular > long cane. > > Vince. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Geoff Madge IS Development Officer Technology IS Strategy" > <Geoff.Madge@essex.gov.uk> > To: "BCAB Discussion List" <bcab@lists.bcab.org.uk> > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 12:15 PM > Subject: Re: [BCAB] ultra cain > > > Hello, > > I have been using an UltraCane for about nine months now and find it very > helpful indeed. It has all the advantages of having a normal long cane but > gives either short range or longer range warning of any obstacles either in > front or above. I do twist the handle to find out what is either side of > me > as well which is very effective. I can even track where people are when I > a > walking along the pavement . > > It has reduced the number actual hits I make with the cane and my own > impacts when bumping into things. It is not a total solution to getting > about but has made a big improvement for me. I recently forgot to replace > the AA batteries so was left just with a long cane which showed me how much > I am now using the sonar to get about. If you are thinking of trying one > please bear in mind that it takes several weeks for using it to become > second nature which is when the benefit really begins to show. > > I managed to get Access To Work funding for my UltraCane with the support > of > my employer. If you are in employment then this is definitely worth a try. > > > Regards, > > Geoff Madge > IS Development Officer > Information Services, Transformation Directorate > Essex County Council > Telephone: 01245 431332 | Ext: 21332 | Email: geoff.madge@essex.gov.uk | > www.essex.gov.uk > > EssexWorks > > For a better quality of life > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces@lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of > Nick.Adamson@generaldynamics.uk.com > Sent: 09 November 2012 11:50 > To: bcab@lists.bcab.org.uk > Subject: Re: [BCAB] ultra cain > > Hi John. > > Thanks for the info. > I've read up about the glasses before but I'm not sure about them. > According > to my wife, they look a little bit strange and a bit conspicuous. > > Thanks. > Nick. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces@lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of john > Sent: Friday, 09 November 2012 11:18 > To: bcab@lists.bcab.org.uk > Subject: [BCAB] ultra cain > > Hi Nick, > > I tried one of these out last year at sv and thought it quite good but very > costly. The rnib do a similar product but in the form of glasses. Both work > on ultra sound but the ultra cain has a much greater distence up to 4m, > weather this is of benefit is debatible on things like how much advance > notice one would like. > > The basic idea is that you get vibration indication of when an object is in > range of the ultra sound path. So for the ultra cain, this covers from just > above your head to the floor and about a metre wide with a range of either > 2m or 4m. The glasses from the rnib which are priced at ?80 I believe, only > cover the top half arond head height to chest or waste I think and only > does > quite close range, not sure exactaly. The ultra cain has two vibrating > bumps > on the cain one for the top sencer and the other for the bottom sencer, > giving you an idea of where the object is within your forward path. By > twisting the cain left or right, it was very easy to get an idea of what > was > around either side and with a little practice I think would be quite > helpful, especially in new or changing seroundings. The glasses from the > rnib are to be used with either a regular cain or guide dog. They are not > sufficient to use on their own. I haven't yet tried out the glasses but > hope > to do so soon. > > I hope this very quick review gives a little help into these products. > > best, John > -- > To find out more about BCAB and the benefits that membership can bring, > please visit our website: > http://www.bcab.org.uk/ > > To manage your subscription to the BCAB mailing list, please visit our > website: > http://www.bcab.org.uk/bcab-discussion-list/ > > To discuss matters relating to the mailing list, please email > moderator@bcab.org.uk. > > > This email and any files attached are intended for the addressee and may > contain information of a confidential nature. If you are not the intended > recipient, be aware that this email was sent to you in error and you should > not disclose, distribute, print, copy or make other use of this email or > its > attachments. Such actions, in fact, may be unlawful. In compliance with the > various Regulations and Acts, General Dynamics United Kingdom Limited > reserves the right to monitor (and examine for viruses) all emails and > email > attachments, both inbound and outbound. Email communications and their > attachments may not be secure or error- or virus-free and the company does > not accept liability or responsibility for such matters or the consequences > thereof. General Dynamics United Kingdom Limited, Registered Office: 21 > Holborn Viaduct, London EC1A 2DY. Registered in England and Wales No: > 1911653. > -- > To find out more about BCAB and the benefits that membership can bring, > please visit our website: > http://www.bcab.org.uk/ > > To manage your subscription to the BCAB mailing list, please visit our > website: > http://www.bcab.org.uk/bcab-discussion-list/ > > To discuss matters relating to the mailing list, please email > moderator@bcab.org.uk. > > > Click > https://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/z2Y8DFyYncXGX2PQPOmvUjv7UDC5eDNd40uA6uD+sqI+n > WfQpFeGg2n0QLkONiN7cjkzYT9bVbk94h7CChK4GQ== > to report this email as spam. > This email (including any attachments) is intended only for the > recipient(s) > named above. It may contain confidential or privileged information and > should not be read, copied or otherwise used by any other person unless > express permission is given. If you are not a named recipient, please > contact the sender and delete the email from your system. It is the > recipient's responsibility to ensure that appropriate measures are in place > to check for software viruses. > > > -- > To find out more about BCAB and the benefits that membership can bring, > please visit our website: > http://www.bcab.org.uk/ > > To manage your subscription to the BCAB mailing list, please visit our > website: > http://www.bcab.org.uk/bcab-discussion-list/ > > To discuss matters relating to the mailing list, please email > moderator@bcab.org.uk. > > > -- > To find out more about BCAB and the benefits that membership can bring, > please visit our website: > http://www.bcab.org.uk/ > > To manage your subscription to the BCAB mailing list, please visit our > website: > http://www.bcab.org.uk/bcab-discussion-list/ > > To discuss matters relating to the mailing list, please email > moderator@bcab.org.uk. > > > -- > To find out more about BCAB and the benefits that membership can bring, > please visit our website: > http://www.bcab.org.uk/ > > To manage your subscription to the BCAB mailing list, please visit our > website: > http://www.bcab.org.uk/bcab-discussion-list/ > > To discuss matters relating to the mailing list, please email > moderator@bcab.org.uk. > > > -- > To find out more about BCAB and the benefits that membership can bring, > please visit our website: > http://www.bcab.org.uk/ > > To manage your subscription to the BCAB mailing list, please visit our > website: > http://www.bcab.org.uk/bcab-discussion-list/ > > To discuss matters relating to the mailing list, please email > moderator@bcab.org.uk. > Hi only the electronics are better. I will say more when i return > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 10:49:31 +0000 > From: Colin Howard <colin@pobox.com> > To: BCAB Discussion List <bcab@lists.bcab.org.uk> > Subject: [BCAB] ACB Radio Tuner Version 7.2 released. > Message-ID: <09cs98t2inn9lb3ug9so37bkm7r0bp7017@4ax.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > From: "Jeff Bishop" <jeff@jeffbishop.com> > Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 16:19:07 -0700 > > A new version of the ACB Radio Tuner is out with enhancements and fixes > reported by all of you. For this we thank you. Here are the changes: > > > > . Added support for NVDA for Extra Speech output. > > . Support for the media player Foobar2000 has been added. > > . The ACB Radio Broadband streams will be used by default rather > then the modem streams. > > . Changed the menu bar slightly. The Listen To menu is now titled > Stream Menu. Its hotkey was Alt+L and is now Alt+S. > > . Added more error checking when switching speech types to insure > that the screen readers are running before performing the switch. > > . Insured all hotkeys are not replicated across the application. > > > > Use the Check for Update in the Help menu to get the new release or > download > it from: > > > > http://www.acbradio.org/tuner > > > > Jeff Bishop > > Colin Howard, living near Southampton in Southern > England. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > -- > To find out more about BCAB and the benefits that membership can bring, > please visit our website: > http://www.bcab.org.uk/ > > To manage your subscription to the BCAB mailing list, please visit our > website: > http://www.bcab.org.uk/bcab-discussion-list/ > > To discuss matters relating to the mailing list, please email > moderator@bcab.org.uk. > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Bcab Digest, Vol 106, Issue 12 > ************************************* >