Re: [BCAB] Web Design advice Brian Hartgen 23 Nov 2012 10:34 GMT

Hi Sue

At Astec, we regularly undertake full access audits of websites and
browser-based applications for large corporations and government
departments. While clearly you would not necessarily wish to have one of
these, as the consultancy and the preparation of a 50 page report would be
expensive, provided it did not take too long I would be willing to have a
quick look at the site for you and provide some suggestions for improvement
if appropriate.

Regards:

Brian Hartgen

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From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces@lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of
Nick.Adamson@generaldynamics.uk.com
Sent: 23 November 2012 09:02
To: bcab@lists.bcab.org.uk; lists.godfrey-mckay@virginmedia.com
Subject: Re: [BCAB] Web Design advice

Spot on in terms of setting a requirement for accessibility. The other
question I'd ask is how are they planning on testing what they've done in
terms of accessibility. Depending on the scope of the website there are a
number of companies that specialise in accessibility testing, most of which
use blind and partially sighted people to do there testing.
If money is short then often volunteers will do some quick testing for you.

Thanks.
Nick.

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From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces@lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of David
Reynolds
Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2012 21:06
To: lists.godfrey-mckay@virginmedia.com; 'BCAB Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [BCAB] Web Design advice

Richard,

Absolutely right. Telling a designer how to do his job isn't the way. You
can tell him not to use any tables always use alt text, but ultimately, it
is the responsibility of the designer to make sure the site is accessible.
Davi.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces@lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Richard
Godfrey-McKay
Sent: 22 November 2012 20:21
To: 'Sue & Ian'; 'BCAB Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [BCAB] Web Design advice

Sue, Isn't the important thing to ensure that your agreement  with the
designers states that the site needs to be accessible/usable by
blind/ps/disabled people, and, that should, in my view, give you the
opportunity to come back to them if that group subsequently encounters a
design problem?

the danger of telling them specifically what you want is that you may not
cover all the ground, and if the problem which emerges hasn't been
mentioned, the designers may try to argue that you didn't specify that!
Very important to ask potential designers to give info re their experience
of designing such sites.
Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces@lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Sue & Ian
Sent: 22 November 2012 20:06
To: British Computer Association
Subject: [BCAB] Web Design advice

Hi, I am looking for some advice from those of you who understand web design
and implimenting accessibility/usability from the start. I am involved with
a small group who have just secured funding to set up a website and we want
to make sure it is accessible and more importantly useable from a disabled
persons point of view, especially using screen readers and magnification. Is
there anything in particular we should be a, asking for and b, looking for,
when dealing with web designers. Thanks Susan Jones
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