Re: [BCAB] Web Design advice Nick.Adamson@generaldynamics.uk.com 23 Nov 2012 11:08 GMT

Just my opinion but in this case it's the owners responsibility to tell the developer that it should be accessible
If it's in the requirements then the owner has a legitimate argument to pass any complaints on to the developer, if it's not then it's the owners fault for not giving a proper set of requirements.

One day wouldn't it be nice if website developers automatically assumed a website should be accessible and standards compliant. We're not there yet though.

Thanks.
Nick.

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From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces@lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Derek Hornby
Sent: Friday, 23 November 2012 10:51
To: 'BCAB Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [BCAB] Web Design advice

David
"responsibility of the designer to make sure the site is accessible"

Surely  it's actually  the  responsibility of site Owner!
If you  had access problems with a web site,  and wanted to take
Legal actin,  surely it's the site owner  you take to court!
Regards,  Derek

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From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces@lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of David
Reynolds
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 9:06 PM
To: lists.godfrey-mckay@virginmedia.com; 'BCAB Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [BCAB] Web Design advice

Richard,

Absolutely right. Telling a designer how to do his job isn't the way. You
can tell him not to use any tables always use alt text, but ultimately, it
is the responsibility of the designer to make sure the site is accessible.
Davi.

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From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces@lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Richard
Godfrey-McKay
Sent: 22 November 2012 20:21
To: 'Sue & Ian'; 'BCAB Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [BCAB] Web Design advice

Sue, Isn't the important thing to ensure that your agreement  with the
designers states that the site needs to be accessible/usable by
blind/ps/disabled people, and, that should, in my view, give you the
opportunity to come back to them if that group subsequently encounters a
design problem?

the danger of telling them specifically what you want is that you may not
cover all the ground, and if the problem which emerges hasn't been
mentioned, the designers may try to argue that you didn't specify that!
Very important to ask potential designers to give info re their experience
of designing such sites.
Richard

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From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces@lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Sue & Ian
Sent: 22 November 2012 20:06
To: British Computer Association
Subject: [BCAB] Web Design advice

Hi, I am looking for some advice from those of you who understand web design
and implimenting accessibility/usability from the start. I am involved with
a small group who have just secured funding to set up a website and we want
to make sure it is accessible and more importantly useable from a disabled
persons point of view, especially using screen readers and magnification. Is
there anything in particular we should be a, asking for and b, looking for,
when dealing with web designers. Thanks Susan Jones
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