[BCAB] Kindle Fire
Porter, Paul
(28 Nov 2012 11:24 GMT)
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Re: [BCAB] Kindle Fire
Jackie Cairns
(28 Nov 2012 12:11 GMT)
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Re: [BCAB] Kindle Fire
Neela
(28 Nov 2012 12:14 GMT)
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Re: [BCAB] Kindle Fire
Jackie Cairns
(29 Nov 2012 10:48 GMT)
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Re: [BCAB] Kindle Fire
Nick.Adamson@generaldynamics.uk.com
(28 Nov 2012 12:51 GMT)
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Re: [BCAB] Kindle Fire
Ian Macrae
(28 Nov 2012 13:25 GMT)
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Re: [BCAB] Kindle Fire
Mel Griffiths
(28 Nov 2012 13:37 GMT)
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Re: [BCAB] Kindle Fire
tim.pennick@bt.com
(28 Nov 2012 13:51 GMT)
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Re: [BCAB] Kindle Fire
Mel Griffiths
(28 Nov 2012 13:57 GMT)
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[BCAB] iPhone Rotation Lock (was RE: Kindle Fire)
tim.pennick@bt.com
(28 Nov 2012 14:29 GMT)
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Re: [BCAB] Kindle Fire
Steven Bingham
(28 Nov 2012 16:52 GMT)
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Re: [BCAB] Kindle Fire
Mel Griffiths
(29 Nov 2012 09:29 GMT)
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Re: [BCAB] Kindle Fire
Clive.Lever@kent.gov.uk
(28 Nov 2012 13:38 GMT)
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Re: [BCAB] Kindle Fire Neela (28 Nov 2012 18:27 GMT)
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Re: [BCAB] Kindle Fire
Neela
(28 Nov 2012 18:29 GMT)
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Re: [BCAB] Kindle Fire
Barrie
(28 Nov 2012 14:00 GMT)
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Re: [BCAB] Kindle Fire
Ibrahim Gucukoglu
(28 Nov 2012 16:46 GMT)
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Re: [BCAB] Kindle Fire
Barrie
(28 Nov 2012 17:36 GMT)
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Re: [BCAB] Kindle Fire
Ian Macrae
(28 Nov 2012 19:53 GMT)
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Re: [BCAB] Kindle Fire
Ibrahim Gucukoglu
(28 Nov 2012 20:14 GMT)
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Re: [BCAB] Kindle Fire Neela 28 Nov 2012 18:27 GMT
Well I appreciate your concern and interest. Certain list members have been great but interestingly not all the information was available in one place, not even the RNIB information. I can certainly assist you when you get it but agree that a comprehensive booklet should be prepared. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Clive.Lever@kent.gov.uk> To: <bcab@lists.bcab.org.uk> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [BCAB] Kindle Fire > Hi all, > > Has anyone ever put together a sort of quick start guide for V I users of > Kindle Keyboard wanting to download hear books, hear them and have menus > voiced? There have been a lot of bits of information on various emails, > but it would be nice to get it all in one place? I'm told I will be > getting one for Christmas, and would like to go to one file where I can > find out all I need to know about getting the device to work for me. > > Thanks, > Clive > > > > > Clive Lever > Diversity and Equality Officer > Kent County Council > > Office: 01622 221163 > Email: clive.lever@kent.gov.uk > > > Kent County Council > Room G37 > Sessions House > Maidstone, Kent. > ME14 1XQ > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces@lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Ian Macrae > Sent: 28 November 2012 13:25 > To: BCAB Discussion List > Subject: Re: [BCAB] Kindle Fire > > It's true the Kindle keyboard is not perfect and it's outrageous that > amazon feels it can get away with not making its tablet range accessible. > but I've yet to discover a better solution than the Kindle Keyboard. I > was recently sent another e-reader with a touch screen, the Pocketbook. > along with several other languages, it has only one female voice for > reading text. But it has no voice guidance for menus or other screens. > Reading books on the iPhone has its problems, mainly to do with having to > keep the screen rotation stable otherwise it stops. I've not had chance > to use the other e-readers, Sony and Samsung, so if anyone has knowledge > or views on those I'd be glad to hear. In the meantime, my Kindle is in > continuous use and I'm able to buy books before or at the time of their > release. So, while amazon's attitude is high-handed, arrogant and in many > instances discriminatory, in other ways they have opened up access to > books in ways no one else has as far as I'm, aware. > > Ian Macrae > Editor > Disability Now > 6 Market Road > London > N7 9PW > ++44 20 7619 7760 ext 7760 > ++44 7824 900855 > www.disabilitynow.org.uk<http://www.disabilitynow.org.uk> > Follow us: @disabilitynow > > > > > > > On 28 Nov 2012, at 12:51, > <Nick.Adamson@generaldynamics.uk.com<mailto:Nick.Adamson@generaldynamics.uk.com>> > wrote: > > I'm afraid I agree. > I'm sure many of you remember that about 18 months ago when I first got my > Kindle keyboard I was an advocate and genuinely thought that Kindle was a > potential game changer. But certainly in the last 6 months I've changed my > mind. Amazon just don't seem bothered by accessibility and feel that the > minimal effort they've put in is good enough. Well quite frankly it's not. > I'm normally one of those who is on the side of trying to work with > solution developers and praising those for what they do rather than > getting all militant about accessibility but Amazon don't seem to want to > think about accessibility and those of us who have offered help and > constructive advice appear to be ignored. > > If I'd not invested so much in their books I'd be boycotting Kindle as > there are so many better solutions out there now. I just hope that all the > pressure organisations and individuals are putting on Amazon at the moment > changes there attitude, particularly around the mobile apps. > > Just my thoughts. > Nick. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces@lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Jackie > Cairns > Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2012 12:12 > To: 'BCAB Discussion List' > Subject: Re: [BCAB] Kindle Fire > > Hi Paul > > Right, that clarifies things, thanks. I thought I had read that the Fire > wasn't accessible, but hadn't realised there were different versions of > it. > Amazon seem to think they have done enough with accessibility as it is, so > nobody hold their breath! > > > Kind Regards, > > Jackie Cairns > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces@lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Porter, > Paul > Sent: 28 November 2012 11:24 > To: BCAB Discussion List > Subject: [BCAB] Kindle Fire > > From googling I'm not sure if the Kindle Fire HD 8.9 is going to be > available in the UK. The Kindle Fire HD 7 is on the Amazon UK store. > > Paul > > > > -- > November is Switch on to technology month! Find out more about our free > beginners' guide, podcasts and events across the UK at > http://rnib.in/U1nG4G > -- > > > DISCLAIMER: > > NOTICE: The information contained in this email and any attachments is > confidential and may be privileged. 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