Well I appreciate your concern and interest.  Certain list members have been
great but interestingly not all the information was available in one place,
not even the RNIB information.  I can certainly assist you when you get it
but agree that a comprehensive booklet should be prepared.
----- Original Message -----
From: <Clive.Lever@kent.gov.uk>
To: <bcab@lists.bcab.org.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: [BCAB] Kindle Fire

> Hi all,
>
> Has anyone ever put together a sort of quick start guide for V I users of
> Kindle Keyboard wanting to download hear books,   hear them and have menus
> voiced? There have been a lot of bits of information on various emails,
> but it would be nice to get it all in one place? I'm told I will be
> getting one for Christmas, and would like to go to one file where I can
> find out all I need to know about getting the device to work for me.
>
> Thanks,
> Clive
>
>
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces@lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Ian Macrae
> Sent: 28 November 2012 13:25
> To: BCAB Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Kindle Fire
>
> It's true the Kindle keyboard is not perfect and it's outrageous that
> amazon feels it can get away with not making its tablet range accessible.
> but I've yet to discover a better solution than the Kindle Keyboard.  I
> was recently sent another e-reader with a touch screen, the Pocketbook.
> along with several other languages, it has only one female voice for
> reading text.  But it has no voice guidance for menus or other screens.
> Reading books on the iPhone has its problems, mainly to do with having to
> keep the screen rotation stable otherwise it stops.  I've not had chance
> to use the other e-readers, Sony and Samsung, so if anyone has knowledge
> or views on those I'd be glad to hear.  In the meantime, my Kindle is in
> continuous use and I'm able to buy books before or at the time of their
> release.  So, while amazon's attitude is high-handed, arrogant and in many
> instances discriminatory, in other ways they have opened up access to
> books in ways no one else has as far as I'm, aware.
>
> Ian Macrae
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> On 28 Nov 2012, at 12:51,
> <Nick.Adamson@generaldynamics.uk.com<mailto:Nick.Adamson@generaldynamics.uk.com>>
> wrote:
>
> I'm afraid I agree.
> I'm sure many of you remember that about 18 months ago when I first got my
> Kindle keyboard I was an advocate and genuinely thought that Kindle was a
> potential game changer. But certainly in the last 6 months I've changed my
> mind. Amazon just don't seem bothered by accessibility and feel that the
> minimal effort they've put in is good enough. Well quite frankly it's not.
> I'm normally one of those who is on the side of trying to work with
> solution developers and praising those for what they do rather than
> getting all militant about accessibility but Amazon don't seem to want to
> think about accessibility and those of us who have offered help and
> constructive advice appear to be ignored.
>
> If I'd not invested so much in their books I'd be boycotting Kindle as
> there are so many better solutions out there now. I just hope that all the
> pressure organisations and individuals are putting on Amazon at the moment
> changes there attitude, particularly around the mobile apps.
>
> Just my thoughts.
> Nick.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces@lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Jackie
> Cairns
> Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2012 12:12
> To: 'BCAB Discussion List'
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] Kindle Fire
>
> Hi Paul
>
> Right, that clarifies things, thanks.  I thought I had read that the Fire
> wasn't accessible, but hadn't realised there were different versions of
> it.
> Amazon seem to think they have done enough with accessibility as it is, so
> nobody hold their breath!
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Jackie Cairns
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces@lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Porter,
> Paul
> Sent: 28 November 2012 11:24
> To: BCAB Discussion List
> Subject: [BCAB] Kindle Fire
>
> From googling I'm not sure if the Kindle Fire HD 8.9 is going to be
> available in the UK. The Kindle Fire HD 7 is on the Amazon UK store.
>
> Paul
>
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