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[BCAB] VAT exemption on VoiceOver products Jackie Cairns (18 Oct 2012 09:50 BST)
Re: [BCAB] VAT exemption on VoiceOver products Martin (18 Oct 2012 10:57 BST)
Re: [BCAB] VAT exemption on VoiceOver products Jackie Cairns (18 Oct 2012 11:37 BST)
Re: [BCAB] VAT exemption on VoiceOver products Vince Thacker (18 Oct 2012 12:55 BST)
Re: [BCAB] VAT exemption on VoiceOver products R DAVIES (05 Dec 2012 16:55 GMT)
[BCAB] VAT exemption on Tvonics set top box Agent Orange (05 Dec 2012 21:22 GMT)
Re: [BCAB] VAT exemption on Tvonics set top box Neela (05 Dec 2012 22:17 GMT)
Re: [BCAB] VAT exemption on Tvonics set top box Steven Bingham (06 Dec 2012 12:22 GMT)
Re: [BCAB] VAT exemption on Tvonics set top box Agent Orange (06 Dec 2012 16:50 GMT)
Re: [BCAB] VAT exemption on Tvonics set top box Barry Hill (06 Dec 2012 17:10 GMT)
Re: [BCAB] VAT exemption on Tvonics set top box Neela (06 Dec 2012 18:00 GMT)
Re: [BCAB] VAT exemption on Tvonics set top box Tyler, Steve (10 Dec 2012 09:27 GMT)
Re: [BCAB] VAT exemption on Tvonics set top box Agent Orange (11 Dec 2012 12:54 GMT)
Re: [BCAB] VAT exemption on Tvonics set top box Barry Hill (06 Dec 2012 07:12 GMT)
Re: [BCAB] VAT exemption on Tvonics set top box Colin Phelan (06 Dec 2012 09:24 GMT)
Re: [BCAB] VAT exemption on Tvonics set top box Neela (06 Dec 2012 09:46 GMT)
Re: [BCAB] VAT exemption on VoiceOver products Jackie Cairns (06 Dec 2012 11:27 GMT)

Re: [BCAB] VAT exemption on Tvonics set top box Neela 05 Dec 2012 22:17 GMT

What about the Panosonic TVs too Phil, that have voice guidance and
capability to turn on audio description?  I believe RNIB worked with
Panosonic to achieve this additional facility.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Agent Orange" <agentorange@talktalk.net>
To: <robindavies18@yahoo.co.uk>; "'BCAB Discussion List'"
<bcab@lists.bcab.org.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 9:22 PM
Subject: [BCAB] VAT exemption on Tvonics set top box

>
> Robin, and other listers,
>
> This is very interesting.
>
> I can't help wondering why the distinction for VAT purposes between an
> iPhone on the one hand, and other voice over products such as an iPad on
> the
> other.
>
> Equally, I am baffled by the distinction between the Goodmans Smart Talk
> set
> top box which I understand is sold VAT free, and the Tvonics set top box
> on
> which VAT must be paid.  I am particularly interested in this difference
> as
> I am considering buying a Tvonics box and I can't ascertain from RNIB -
> despite having asked - why VAT is payable on it given that it comprises a
> special adaptation for the use of visually impaired people.
>
> Can anyone shed any light on the answer?
>
> With thanks
>
> Phil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces@lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of R DAVIES
> Sent: 05 December 2012 16:56
> To: 'BCAB Discussion List'
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] VAT exemption on VoiceOver products
>
> Hi
>
> I promised to update the list on this subject once I had visited the Apple
> store in Covent Garden, London and explored the possibility of VAT
> exemption
> for VO supported products. I had been informed that this store was the
> most
> familiar with VO support and serving blind and visually impaired
> customers.
>
> I visited them yesterday in order to purchase an I Pad and an I Phone,
> accompanied by my partner and my guide dog.
>
> The staff was wonderfully helpful and aware that VAT exemption applied for
> blind and visually impaired customers on all VO products with the
> exception
> of the I Phone. Why there was this difference was not made clear.
>
> We were taken to a quiet upstairs room so the VAT Exemption form could be
> completed and signed and no supporting documentation was requested. I did
> have my council registration card as a blind resident and proof of
> residence
> with me just in case. Mind you the 36 kilo guide dog on my wrist may have
> been proof enough!
>
> On discussing the lack of this benefit for the I Phone it was explained
> that
> the only way this could be done for this product was for Apple to take the
> hit as they would still have to pay the VAT even if it was waived for me.
> Only the store manager could agree to such a step.
>
> After discussing my RNIB  and BCAB memberships and my awareness that the
> RNIB held regular training sessions at this Apple store together with my
> joint purchase of both an I Pad and an I Phone it was eventually agreed to
> waive the VAT for the I Phone as well, an excellent outcome. However,
> there
> was then an additional step where the purchase had to be dealt with
> differently through the payment system and not as a VAT Exemption process.
> This apparently lodged the reduction, equivalent to the VAT due, as a
> charge
> against the store sales income somehow.
>
> So it seems clear that VAT exemption does apply for all Apple VO supported
> products, apart from the I Phone, and can be asked for. However, obtaining
> a
> similar or equivalent reduction for a new I Phone depends on the
> willingness
> and attitude of the local manager rather than a formal procedure or
> agreement with Customs and Revenue.
>
> I hope this is of help to any listers considering new Apple purchases and
> able to get to the Covent Garden store or any other Apple store with an
> active VIP client base.
>
> Regards
> Robin
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces@lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf of Vince
> Thacker
> Sent: 18 October 2012 12:56
> To: BCAB Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] VAT exemption on VoiceOver products
>
> Sounds as if the Apple Store had this very well sorted out. You can get
> VAT
> exemptions on all sorts of things, but the procedure can be a lot more
> cumbersome.
>
> The rules are spelt out here....
>
> http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/vat/sectors/consumers/disabled.htm
>
> Vince.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@btinternet.com>
> To: <access-uk@freelists.org>; "'BCAB Discussion List'"
> <bcab@lists.bcab.org.uk>
> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 9:50 AM
> Subject: [BCAB] VAT exemption on VoiceOver products
>
>
>> All,
>>
>> I had the opportunity of visiting the Apple store in Belfast yesterday.
>> While there, I discovered that people who are registered as blind, deaf
>> or
>> deaf-blind are entitled to receive VAT exemption on VoiceOver products.
>> That is to say, the Mac range, iPad, iPhone, and iPod range.  This does
>> not
>> include any accessories.  All you need to do is take some kind of proof
>> if
>> your impairment is not obvious, and complete and sign the VAT exemption
>> form
>> a store staff member will give you.  You can then purchase your VoiceOver
>> product there and then.
>>
>> This information was offered to me without my even thinking about asking
>> as
>> I had absolutely no idea Apple products come under VAT exemption.
>>
>> I thought you might like to know.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Jackie Cairns
>>
>>
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