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[BCAB] VAT exemption on VoiceOver products Jackie Cairns (18 Oct 2012 09:50 BST)
Re: [BCAB] VAT exemption on VoiceOver products Martin (18 Oct 2012 10:57 BST)
Re: [BCAB] VAT exemption on VoiceOver products Jackie Cairns (18 Oct 2012 11:37 BST)
Re: [BCAB] VAT exemption on VoiceOver products Vince Thacker (18 Oct 2012 12:55 BST)
Re: [BCAB] VAT exemption on VoiceOver products R DAVIES (05 Dec 2012 16:55 GMT)
[BCAB] VAT exemption on Tvonics set top box Agent Orange (05 Dec 2012 21:22 GMT)
Re: [BCAB] VAT exemption on Tvonics set top box Neela (05 Dec 2012 22:17 GMT)
Re: [BCAB] VAT exemption on Tvonics set top box Steven Bingham (06 Dec 2012 12:22 GMT)
Re: [BCAB] VAT exemption on Tvonics set top box Agent Orange (06 Dec 2012 16:50 GMT)
Re: [BCAB] VAT exemption on Tvonics set top box Barry Hill (06 Dec 2012 17:10 GMT)
Re: [BCAB] VAT exemption on Tvonics set top box Neela (06 Dec 2012 18:00 GMT)
Re: [BCAB] VAT exemption on Tvonics set top box Tyler, Steve (10 Dec 2012 09:27 GMT)
Re: [BCAB] VAT exemption on Tvonics set top box Agent Orange (11 Dec 2012 12:54 GMT)
Re: [BCAB] VAT exemption on Tvonics set top box Barry Hill (06 Dec 2012 07:12 GMT)
Re: [BCAB] VAT exemption on Tvonics set top box Colin Phelan (06 Dec 2012 09:24 GMT)
Re: [BCAB] VAT exemption on Tvonics set top box Neela (06 Dec 2012 09:46 GMT)
Re: [BCAB] VAT exemption on VoiceOver products Jackie Cairns (06 Dec 2012 11:27 GMT)

Re: [BCAB] VAT exemption on Tvonics set top box Neela 06 Dec 2012 09:46 GMT

You have a point there Colin.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Colin Phelan" <Colin_Phelan@pmlgroup.com>
To: "BCAB Discussion List" <bcab@lists.bcab.org.uk>
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: [BCAB] VAT exemption on Tvonics set top box

>I think Barry's point about equipment being manufactured specifically
> for VI folk is the answer.
> Like everything in life, there are shades of grey, My view is that the I
> pad VAT exemption experienced in Apple shops is Apple choosing to go one
> side of the line.
> I also suggest that bringing to much noise to their decision may well
> push them back the other side not bring other products in line with
> apples apparent choice.
> Colin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces@lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of Agent
> Orange
> Sent: 05 December 2012 21:22
> To: robindavies18@yahoo.co.uk; 'BCAB Discussion List'
> Subject: [BCAB] VAT exemption on Tvonics set top box
>
>
> Robin, and other listers,
>
> This is very interesting.
>
> I can't help wondering why the distinction for VAT purposes between an
> iPhone on the one hand, and other voice over products such as an iPad on
> the other.
>
> Equally, I am baffled by the distinction between the Goodmans Smart Talk
> set top box which I understand is sold VAT free, and the Tvonics set top
> box on which VAT must be paid.  I am particularly interested in this
> difference as I am considering buying a Tvonics box and I can't
> ascertain from RNIB - despite having asked - why VAT is payable on it
> given that it comprises a special adaptation for the use of visually
> impaired people.
>
> Can anyone shed any light on the answer?
>
> With thanks
>
> Phil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces@lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf Of R DAVIES
> Sent: 05 December 2012 16:56
> To: 'BCAB Discussion List'
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] VAT exemption on VoiceOver products
>
> Hi
>
> I promised to update the list on this subject once I had visited the
> Apple store in Covent Garden, London and explored the possibility of VAT
> exemption for VO supported products. I had been informed that this store
> was the most familiar with VO support and serving blind and visually
> impaired customers.
>
> I visited them yesterday in order to purchase an I Pad and an I Phone,
> accompanied by my partner and my guide dog.
>
> The staff was wonderfully helpful and aware that VAT exemption applied
> for blind and visually impaired customers on all VO products with the
> exception of the I Phone. Why there was this difference was not made
> clear.
>
> We were taken to a quiet upstairs room so the VAT Exemption form could
> be completed and signed and no supporting documentation was requested. I
> did have my council registration card as a blind resident and proof of
> residence with me just in case. Mind you the 36 kilo guide dog on my
> wrist may have been proof enough!
>
> On discussing the lack of this benefit for the I Phone it was explained
> that the only way this could be done for this product was for Apple to
> take the hit as they would still have to pay the VAT even if it was
> waived for me.
> Only the store manager could agree to such a step.
>
> After discussing my RNIB  and BCAB memberships and my awareness that the
> RNIB held regular training sessions at this Apple store together with my
> joint purchase of both an I Pad and an I Phone it was eventually agreed
> to waive the VAT for the I Phone as well, an excellent outcome. However,
> there was then an additional step where the purchase had to be dealt
> with differently through the payment system and not as a VAT Exemption
> process.
> This apparently lodged the reduction, equivalent to the VAT due, as a
> charge against the store sales income somehow.
>
> So it seems clear that VAT exemption does apply for all Apple VO
> supported products, apart from the I Phone, and can be asked for.
> However, obtaining a similar or equivalent reduction for a new I Phone
> depends on the willingness and attitude of the local manager rather than
> a formal procedure or agreement with Customs and Revenue.
>
> I hope this is of help to any listers considering new Apple purchases
> and able to get to the Covent Garden store or any other Apple store with
> an active VIP client base.
>
> Regards
> Robin
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bcab [mailto:bcab-bounces@lists.bcab.org.uk] On Behalf of Vince
> Thacker
> Sent: 18 October 2012 12:56
> To: BCAB Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [BCAB] VAT exemption on VoiceOver products
>
> Sounds as if the Apple Store had this very well sorted out. You can get
> VAT exemptions on all sorts of things, but the procedure can be a lot
> more cumbersome.
>
> The rules are spelt out here....
>
> http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/vat/sectors/consumers/disabled.htm
>
> Vince.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@btinternet.com>
> To: <access-uk@freelists.org>; "'BCAB Discussion List'"
> <bcab@lists.bcab.org.uk>
> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 9:50 AM
> Subject: [BCAB] VAT exemption on VoiceOver products
>
>
>> All,
>>
>> I had the opportunity of visiting the Apple store in Belfast
> yesterday.
>> While there, I discovered that people who are registered as blind,
>> deaf or deaf-blind are entitled to receive VAT exemption on VoiceOver
> products.
>> That is to say, the Mac range, iPad, iPhone, and iPod range.  This
>> does not include any accessories.  All you need to do is take some
>> kind of proof if your impairment is not obvious, and complete and sign
>
>> the VAT exemption form a store staff member will give you.  You can
>> then purchase your VoiceOver product there and then.
>>
>> This information was offered to me without my even thinking about
>> asking as I had absolutely no idea Apple products come under VAT
>> exemption.
>>
>> I thought you might like to know.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Jackie Cairns
>>
>>
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